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Happy Halloween
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David Zeit
2003-10-30 23:15:23 UTC
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A happy and spooktacular Halloween to all. Weather guy says there is not
a ghost of a chance for rain. So, guys keep your pumpkins warm and may
you and your ghoul friend have a better Halloween than my wife and I did
last year.

We'd gone to bed after giving out goodies and were just about to fall
asleep when we heard a horrible moaning shriek. Apparently a ghost had
got sucked up in the heating system and what a noise when the sheet hit
the fan! :-)
osote
2003-10-31 11:05:53 UTC
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Post by David Zeit
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A happy and spooktacular Halloween to all. Weather guy says there is not
a ghost of a chance for rain. So, guys keep your pumpkins warm and may
you and your ghoul friend have a better Halloween than my wife and I did
last year.
We'd gone to bed after giving out goodies and were just about to fall
asleep when we heard a horrible moaning shriek. Apparently a ghost had
got sucked up in the heating system and what a noise when the sheet hit
the fan! :-)
Oh my gawd that was so funny!

I had a bad day. Health problems I can't explain away and a doctor saying
it's "just stress". Yeah, you'd be stressed out too if .... snip all my
problems. So his advice was to relax and take a bath. So I took all his
prescription pills and commenced my "relaxing bath". During which I cut
myself shaving my legs (YOU find a bandaid THAT long, he he) and the
floating candles caught my shower curtain on fire! And then when the
freakin bathwater wouldn't go down the damned drain I discovered that all
that hair that fell out off my head when I shampooed was a lot more than I
realized and was plugging the flipping bathtub. Eww... and AAACK! My life
is part "Pulp Fiction" and part an Erma Bombeck documentary, he he he.
Stupid Doctor. Stress, my ass. Try "Bubonic Plague". LOL. But hey, I'm
still pretty, and I'm alive, much to my amazement, and that's all that seems
to matter to most people I come across. But I amuse myself so at least
somebody is laughing with me.

osote
Old Mossyfarts
2003-10-31 17:36:52 UTC
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A happy and spooktacular Halloween to all. Weather guy says there is not
a ghost of a chance for rain. So, guys keep your pumpkins warm and may
you and your ghoul friend have a better Halloween than my wife and I did
last year.
We'd gone to bed after giving out goodies and were just about to fall
asleep when we heard a horrible moaning shriek. Apparently a ghost had
got sucked up in the heating system and what a noise when the sheet hit
the fan! :-)
Oh my gawd that was so funny!
I had a bad day. Health problems I can't explain away and a doctor saying
it's "just stress". Yeah, you'd be stressed out too if .... snip all my
problems. So his advice was to relax and take a bath. So I took all his
prescription pills and commenced my "relaxing bath". During which I cut
myself shaving my legs (YOU find a bandaid THAT long, he he) and the
floating candles caught my shower curtain on fire! And then when the
freakin bathwater wouldn't go down the damned drain I discovered that all
that hair that fell out off my head when I shampooed was a lot more than I
realized and was plugging the flipping bathtub. Eww... and AAACK! My life
is part "Pulp Fiction" and part an Erma Bombeck documentary, he he he.
Stupid Doctor. Stress, my ass. Try "Bubonic Plague". LOL. But hey, I'm
still pretty, and I'm alive, much to my amazement, and that's all that seems
to matter to most people I come across. But I amuse myself so at least
somebody is laughing with me.
Anybody have any good personal Halloween stories or great costumes they've
worn? Halloween used to be fun but these days it's just store bought candy
and costumes, usually princesses or Harry Potter, not the good scary stuff
when I was a kid. I certainly had my share of fun toilet-papering houses but
I think I really started enjoying Halloween when I got older and could go to
parties without my parents censoring what I wore. These days, if you went
out as a legless flasher on a rolling cart you'd probably get picked up by
John Ashcroft's Department of Halloween Security.
osote
2003-10-31 20:14:26 UTC
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Post by osote
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A happy and spooktacular Halloween to all. Weather guy says there is not
a ghost of a chance for rain. So, guys keep your pumpkins warm and may
you and your ghoul friend have a better Halloween than my wife and I did
last year.
We'd gone to bed after giving out goodies and were just about to fall
asleep when we heard a horrible moaning shriek. Apparently a ghost had
got sucked up in the heating system and what a noise when the sheet hit
the fan! :-)
Oh my gawd that was so funny!
I had a bad day. Health problems I can't explain away and a doctor saying
it's "just stress". Yeah, you'd be stressed out too if .... snip all my
problems. So his advice was to relax and take a bath. So I took all his
prescription pills and commenced my "relaxing bath". During which I cut
myself shaving my legs (YOU find a bandaid THAT long, he he) and the
floating candles caught my shower curtain on fire! And then when the
freakin bathwater wouldn't go down the damned drain I discovered that all
that hair that fell out off my head when I shampooed was a lot more than I
realized and was plugging the flipping bathtub. Eww... and AAACK! My life
is part "Pulp Fiction" and part an Erma Bombeck documentary, he he he.
Stupid Doctor. Stress, my ass. Try "Bubonic Plague". LOL. But hey, I'm
still pretty, and I'm alive, much to my amazement, and that's all that
seems
Post by osote
to matter to most people I come across. But I amuse myself so at least
somebody is laughing with me.
Anybody have any good personal Halloween stories or great costumes they've
worn? Halloween used to be fun but these days it's just store bought candy
and costumes, usually princesses or Harry Potter, not the good scary stuff
when I was a kid. I certainly had my share of fun toilet-papering houses but
I think I really started enjoying Halloween when I got older and could go to
parties without my parents censoring what I wore. These days, if you went
out as a legless flasher on a rolling cart you'd probably get picked up by
John Ashcroft's Department of Halloween Security.
Yeah, the masquerade isn't so funny anymore, we really SHOULD start wearing
masks more... what kind of country is this where paranoia is the safest and
most rational response to our rulers? I wish I could get my hands on a
police officer outfit. That would be so ironic and scare witless most of my
best friends. I wouldn't be a very good cop, I'd go around setting
everybody free, don't give the keys to me...

Hmm... I can hardly wait to hear the stories people have to tell about
Halloween antics. This should be good!
gatt
2003-10-31 21:06:52 UTC
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Post by osote
Yeah, the masquerade isn't so funny anymore, we really SHOULD start wearing
masks more... what kind of country is this where paranoia is the safest and
most rational response to our rulers? I wish I could get my hands on a
police officer outfit.
When I was at Scream and they shipped me down to Netscrape, some friends
down there took me to this little ho-down called the Folsom Street Leather
Festival in SFO.

Jesus, Mary and Joseph I had no idea what I was in for. Now, I'm not the
kind of guy that is offended seeing some buffed-out dude in a diaper
standing in a cage which is suspended from a crane over a city intersection,
but I had NO STINKIN' IDEA that Ponch and John the CHP cops weren't really
cops---or, maybe they were...that's just it---when they started making out
on the sidewalk.

I also learned the alternate definition of "organic cookie" after eating
three or four of them. Which, I must say, was far more pleasant than guys
in diapers suspended from cranes.

-c
Paul Johnson
2003-11-01 03:15:43 UTC
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Post by osote
Yeah, the masquerade isn't so funny anymore, we really SHOULD start wearing
masks more... what kind of country is this where paranoia is the safest and
most rational response to our rulers? I wish I could get my hands on a
police officer outfit.
Now that Pinkerton got bought out, I can go as a Pinkerton copper for
Halloween. I kept the uniforms since they wouldn't let me keep the
badge.
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osote
2003-11-05 13:32:51 UTC
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Post by osote
Yeah, the masquerade isn't so funny anymore, we really SHOULD start wearing
masks more... what kind of country is this where paranoia is the safest and
most rational response to our rulers? I wish I could get my hands on a
police officer outfit.
Now that Pinkerton got bought out, I can go as a Pinkerton copper for
Halloween. I kept the uniforms since they wouldn't let me keep the
badge.
--
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`- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system
Good for you. I bet there is a law against misrepresenting a security guard
or something that you could get hit with, even with a totally fake badge,
even if it's just for fun. Which makes me want to do it even more. The
irony of me in a cop uniform is too much, it even makes me laugh. I'd only
get away with it on a stage, probably, or in certain places around town,
and if I looked good enough. That is, sexy enough. Madonna has taught me a
lot about being female, LOL.

osote
gatt
2003-10-31 21:00:41 UTC
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"Old Mossyfarts" <***@oldburg.com> wrote in message
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Post by Old Mossyfarts
Anybody have any good personal Halloween stories or great costumes they've
worn? Halloween used to be fun but these days it's
It's all what you make of it. The plastic store-bought crap bugs me too. We
carved a pumpkin and put a colored light on the porch. Halloween is my
second favorite holiday of the year (Mardi Gras. ;> ) and this year, after
the kid's are done a-knockin', we're gathering with friends.

After a recent post by Homuth earlier this week, I've been trying to design
a helicopter costume for next year. I wanna be a Huey!
Post by Old Mossyfarts
These days, if you went out as a legless flasher on a rolling cart you'd
probably get picked up by
Post by Old Mossyfarts
John Ashcroft's Department of Halloween Security.
Indeed. I remember when kids used to form up in big roving gangs to go
knocking and the only reason there were parents along--if they were at
all--is to keep the little brats out of trouble. Nowadays everybody's more
aware that there are, in fact, really monsters behind some of those doors
which in my opinion is what is happening to Halloween.

Also, for you sci-fi types, don't forget that the director's cut of ALIEN is
out. I made the mistake of sneaking into that movie when I was nine, which
was rather humbling.

I forwarded Dave Thomspon my "ghost" photos from Cathedral Park that I took
last Friday. Still can't duplicate what happened there. If anybody wants a
good spook, let me know and I'll e-mail you the photo. What I really need
is somebody who can recreate the results.
-c
Dave Thompson
2003-10-31 21:31:44 UTC
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Post by gatt
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Post by Old Mossyfarts
Anybody have any good personal Halloween stories or great costumes they've
worn? Halloween used to be fun but these days it's
It's all what you make of it. The plastic store-bought crap bugs me too. We
carved a pumpkin and put a colored light on the porch.
You might appreciate this.

http://www.extremepumpkins.com/

it's a site about pumpkin carving for MEN! No silly kitties and ghosties
carved in relief from a template. They use power tools and flammable
liquids. One guy carved his pumpkin with a gun.
Post by gatt
I forwarded Dave Thomspon my "ghost" photos from Cathedral Park that I took
last Friday. Still can't duplicate what happened there. If anybody wants a
good spook, let me know and I'll e-mail you the photo. What I really need
is somebody who can recreate the results.
There must be a Portland ghost society of some type. Do some searching and
you might turn up some sort of paranormal group. I'd bet they would love to
see those photos.
gatt
2003-11-01 01:38:19 UTC
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Post by Dave Thompson
You might appreciate this.
http://www.extremepumpkins.com/
Man...some of that is just wrong. :>
Post by Dave Thompson
There must be a Portland ghost society of some type. Do some searching and
you might turn up some sort of paranormal group. I'd bet they would love to
see those photos.
Yeah...but...there paranormal types, know what I mean?

-c
Dave Thompson
2003-11-01 04:59:28 UTC
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Post by gatt
Post by Dave Thompson
You might appreciate this.
http://www.extremepumpkins.com/
Man...some of that is just wrong. :>
Yeah, but the guy who carved his pumpkin with a handgun probably didn't need
to hand out candy, did he?
Post by gatt
Post by Dave Thompson
There must be a Portland ghost society of some type. Do some searching and
you might turn up some sort of paranormal group. I'd bet they would love
to
Post by Dave Thompson
see those photos.
Yeah...but...there paranormal types, know what I mean?
Why not see what they say? If it's total horseshit you'll know better.
osote
2003-11-05 13:43:46 UTC
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Post by Dave Thompson
Post by gatt
Post by Dave Thompson
You might appreciate this.
http://www.extremepumpkins.com/
Man...some of that is just wrong. :>
Yeah, but the guy who carved his pumpkin with a handgun probably didn't need
to hand out candy, did he?
LOL! Holy cow, this news group is such a resource. Thank you for this,
it's hysterical.
Post by Dave Thompson
Post by gatt
Post by Dave Thompson
There must be a Portland ghost society of some type. Do some searching
and
Post by gatt
Post by Dave Thompson
you might turn up some sort of paranormal group. I'd bet they would love
to
Post by Dave Thompson
see those photos.
Yeah...but...there paranormal types, know what I mean?
Why not see what they say? If it's total horseshit you'll know better.
Now I am totally intrigued. If Gatt finds a paranormal group in PDX that is
legit, I want to hear about it.

And, I'm pretty sure I believe in ghosts. It would be such a shame if death
really was just a biological process and our soul turned out to be merely
neuroscience. Some people's lives have been so tragic and unjust they
really deserve the chance to come back and do it right. And other's lives
have been so hate filled they should definitely have to come back and do it
again until they get it right and make amends and learn something positive.
I hope reincaranation is true for those reasons.

So, the idea that some souls would still be tied to earth makes total sense,
in that context. The idea that there are other planes of existence besides
the obvious physical one we all take for granted also makes a lot of sense,
especially having studied physics. The idea that energy can neither be
created nor destroyed, only transformed (basic law of nature) also makes
sense and we are, after all, mostly a bunch of energy and electrical
processes and exist here in physical form and maybe a part of us does
separate and go on after our body stops housing us. I know if all of that
is true, and something awful happened to interrupt my life prematurely, I'd
be pissed enough to haunt the hell out of anybody who would see or hear me
until my tragedy could be resolved and I could move on in peace. That is
what I think ghosts are, if they exist. And if Gatt has a picture of one, I
want to see it.

osote
Baxter
2003-11-05 20:49:03 UTC
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Post by osote
Now I am totally intrigued. If Gatt finds a paranormal group in PDX that is
legit, I want to hear about it.
And, I'm pretty sure I believe in ghosts. It would be such a shame if death
really was just a biological process and our soul turned out to be merely
neuroscience. Some people's lives have been so tragic and unjust they
really deserve the chance to come back and do it right. And other's lives
have been so hate filled they should definitely have to come back and do it
again until they get it right and make amends and learn something positive.
I hope reincaranation is true for those reasons.
There's an article on this in this month's Skeptic magazine - in particular
how the media helps reinforce the idea of ghosts by refusing to ask
scientific questions.
osote
2003-11-10 13:47:05 UTC
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Post by gatt
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Post by Old Mossyfarts
Anybody have any good personal Halloween stories or great costumes they've
worn? Halloween used to be fun but these days it's
It's all what you make of it. The plastic store-bought crap bugs me too. We
carved a pumpkin and put a colored light on the porch. Halloween is my
second favorite holiday of the year (Mardi Gras. ;> ) and this year, after
the kid's are done a-knockin', we're gathering with friends.
After a recent post by Homuth earlier this week, I've been trying to design
a helicopter costume for next year. I wanna be a Huey!
Post by Old Mossyfarts
These days, if you went out as a legless flasher on a rolling cart you'd
probably get picked up by
Post by Old Mossyfarts
John Ashcroft's Department of Halloween Security.
Indeed. I remember when kids used to form up in big roving gangs to go
knocking and the only reason there were parents along--if they were at
all--is to keep the little brats out of trouble. Nowadays everybody's more
aware that there are, in fact, really monsters behind some of those doors
which in my opinion is what is happening to Halloween.
Also, for you sci-fi types, don't forget that the director's cut of ALIEN is
out. I made the mistake of sneaking into that movie when I was nine, which
was rather humbling.
I forwarded Dave Thomspon my "ghost" photos from Cathedral Park that I took
last Friday. Still can't duplicate what happened there. If anybody wants a
good spook, let me know and I'll e-mail you the photo. What I really need
is somebody who can recreate the results.
-c
Oh, shit, I knew something was familiar about the place you took the ghost
pictures. You know about the young woman who was raped and murdered there
in the 1940's don't you? I suspect that unresolved trauma lingers in this
plane long after the life forms that occupied that space at the time have
left either from that place in this plane or to another plane of existence
and that is what ghosts are, energy that has not been balanced and is thus
still present and perceptible to those sensitive to it. I don't know any of
this for sure, this is just what I suspect based on everything I've ever
learned or intuited.

Here is a link to a paranormal group in Vancouver, Washington that are
active photojournalists of psychic phenomena in this area. Their
photographs of the "orbs" that haunt Cathedral Park under the Saint John's
bridge support my beliefs that everything in life is circular, a globe,
because everyone and everything are in our own orbits and in orbit around
each other, just as surely as the sun, moon and planets are suspended in
space and held by the energy that keeps them all in orbit around each other,
and just as the electrons that make up existence are suspended in similar
orbit around the nuclei of protons and neutrons. Of course the ghosts
appear as orbs. A better question is how to free them.

http://www.angelfire.com/wa3/ghsthunters/picturepage.htm


Here is a link from their website to many other paranormal resources,
although I have not checked any of them out.

http://www.angelfire.com/wa3/ghsthunters/linkspage.htm
gatt
2003-11-10 20:10:35 UTC
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Post by osote
Oh, shit, I knew something was familiar about the place you took the ghost
pictures. You know about the young woman who was raped and murdered there
in the 1940's don't you?
Stand by. I'll mail you the pictures. I can say with complete honesty that
other than resizing them down from 21" width, they're completely unedited.
I've tried to recreate them based on the best guess for temperature and
humidity. Don't know what the barometric pressure was that night.

But we've tried recreating the shot, blowing smoke, tried exhaling when we
could see our breath (which we couldn't when the shot was taken although
there was dew in the grass. The grass wetness may also be due to
sprinklers...haven't verified that.)

Anyway, I'm looking for somebody who can duplicate the artifacts in the
image regardless of what caused them because I could have a LOT of fun with
the Art Bell types if I could figure out how to do this again. BTW, I have
indeed heard the ghost stories about the park but never had any sort of
"experience" there.
Post by osote
I don't know any of
this for sure, this is just what I suspect based on everything I've ever
learned or intuited.
I'm neutral on the issues of ghosts/paranormal. I'm inclined to disbelieve
but perfectly credible members (multiple) in my family have described things
they have seen together in the past that require an open mind.
Post by osote
Here is a link to a paranormal group in Vancouver, Washington that are
active photojournalists of psychic phenomena in this area. Their
photographs of the "orbs" that haunt Cathedral Park under the Saint John's
bridge support my beliefs that everything in life is circular, a globe,
Yeah...I saw their site and sent them e-mail but they didn't respond. The
problem with "orbs" is I suspect they can be reproduced with a common water
spray bottle. I tend to photograph "orbs" in perfectly mundane places where
there always seems to be higher than average humidity.

Tell me what you think of these... (e-mail to follow)

-c
osote
2003-11-12 23:23:59 UTC
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Post by gatt
Post by osote
Oh, shit, I knew something was familiar about the place you took the ghost
pictures. You know about the young woman who was raped and murdered there
in the 1940's don't you?
Stand by. I'll mail you the pictures. I can say with complete honesty that
other than resizing them down from 21" width, they're completely unedited.
I've tried to recreate them based on the best guess for temperature and
humidity. Don't know what the barometric pressure was that night.
There must be some agency who's job it is to keep track of barometric
pressure and humidity and temperature and anything else that could have
affected your photojournalism efforts...
Post by gatt
But we've tried recreating the shot, blowing smoke, tried exhaling when we
could see our breath (which we couldn't when the shot was taken although
there was dew in the grass. The grass wetness may also be due to
sprinklers...haven't verified that.)
Huh.
Post by gatt
Anyway, I'm looking for somebody who can duplicate the artifacts in the
image regardless of what caused them because I could have a LOT of fun with
the Art Bell types if I could figure out how to do this again. BTW, I have
indeed heard the ghost stories about the park but never had any sort of
"experience" there.
Well, what did you feel that night? And what the hell were you doing in
Cathedral Park at night if you weren't looking for ghosts? LOL. One of
those paranormal links I gave goes to the Thorneberg castle in Washington
state where Steven King's Red Rose mini series was filmed. From what I have
read about ghosts they sound like my kind of people, the ghosts I mean. I
think I prefer the dead to most of the living. Maybe I'm just in a bad
mood. ha ha ha. It just seems that whenever you hear about a haunted place
the accused ghosts usually have a pretty good reason why they haven't left.
Post by gatt
Post by osote
I don't know any of
this for sure, this is just what I suspect based on everything I've ever
learned or intuited.
I'm neutral on the issues of ghosts/paranormal. I'm inclined to disbelieve
but perfectly credible members (multiple) in my family have described things
they have seen together in the past that require an open mind.
Now I'm really intrigued. You have a great family it seems from the
interesting things you post. My family would uh, not be open minded about
this sort of thing and they all live in Denial, perhaps I'll visit them, I
always wanted to travel for awhile...
Post by gatt
Post by osote
Here is a link to a paranormal group in Vancouver, Washington that are
active photojournalists of psychic phenomena in this area. Their
photographs of the "orbs" that haunt Cathedral Park under the Saint John's
bridge support my beliefs that everything in life is circular, a globe,
Yeah...I saw their site and sent them e-mail but they didn't respond.
I didn't get a reply either. I wonder how often they check their email or
if they have a phone. There are others on that links page that could be
local or could know someone who is. I think you should pursue this.

The
Post by gatt
problem with "orbs" is I suspect they can be reproduced with a common water
spray bottle. I tend to photograph "orbs" in perfectly mundane places where
there always seems to be higher than average humidity.
I wonder about that weather phenomenon. I thought when ghosts showed up it
got colder in their vicinity? I don't know much about this stuff but it is
interesting and if you say you captured more on camera than you meant to, I
believe you. You always seemed like a rational, reasonable person when I
worked with you and where we worked if you were nuts it would have shown up
right away due to the extreme duress of the shitty job and tyrannical,
greedy, stingy, elitist employer we once shared. Oh, how I miss that place.
Long live the coffee!
Post by gatt
Tell me what you think of these... (e-mail to follow)
I think I am NEVER going to Cathedral Park at night, certainly not alone. I
can't get the police to believe me NOW when there are actual people who have
done awful things to me, imagine if I got attacked by a spirit and all I had
for evidence is more fear and moral indignation. Please tell me that park
is in the county and not in the city where 911 would send the Po Po? The
only time I feel sorry for the Portland Police is when they have me to deal
with. heh heh heh. And I'm not going up against no ghost. And yet I grieve
for the young girl who was brutally raped there fifty years ago. I wonder
if she is angry and sticking around or if her attacker is an asshole in the
afterlife...
gatt
2003-11-14 00:02:23 UTC
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Post by osote
There must be some agency who's job it is to keep track of barometric
pressure and humidity and temperature and anything else that could have
affected your photojournalism efforts...
Yeah. I could get that information pretty easily but the problem is, we
were less than 50 yards from the river which alters the humidity,
temperature and even the wind quite a bit. Just gonna have to go back and
take a bunch more pictures except, of course, I've taken hundreds there and
never seen anything like it before. Fortunately, digital photos are cheap!
Post by osote
Well, what did you feel that night?
Nothing out of the ordinary given that it was a park in North Portland at
right around midnight. It's always a little spooky, which is half the fun.
'Course, part of the reason it's spooky is 'cause you never know if the
rustling in the bushes is a nutria, geese or a person. It's usually very
quiet, however.
Post by osote
And what the hell were you doing in Cathedral Park at night if you weren't
looking for ghosts?

We keep odd hours. (Near Dark movie quote.) It's a beautiful park at night
with the rolling grass, the curving walkways and the amber circles of
streetlamps lighting them. The big ol' Gothic foot of the St. John's Bridge
looks like something out of Batman and the river is right there too. Every
once in awhile a train rolls right through the center of the park, severing
it from the rest of the world, and of course, the whole experienced is
colored by legend that it's haunted which gives it that extra little edge.

It's a pretty park in the daytime, too, but not nearly so still and quiet.
The boat ramp is free, but usually busy.
Post by osote
Post by gatt
I'm neutral on the issues of ghosts/paranormal. I'm inclined to
disbelieve but perfectly credible members (multiple) in my family have
described
Post by osote
things they have seen together in the past that require an open mind.
Now I'm really intrigued. You have a great family it seems from the
interesting things you post.
Or an interesting family at least. :> That goes back to Texas during the
depression when all nine kids chose to sleep in one bedroom because the
second bedroom had all kinds of weird lights bouncing around on the wall.
The parents (my great grandparents) would have none of it until they saw for
themselves and then they changed their position on the matter. Most of 'em
are dead now but during visits or at family reunions you could ask any of
them about it and they'd describe it for you again. Was a fun story when I
was a kid. That's the only example I know of where multiple people (all of
them) saw the same thing at the same and/or different times.
Post by osote
You always seemed like a rational, reasonable person when I
worked with you and where we worked if you were nuts it would have shown up
right away due to the extreme duress of the shitty job and tyrannical,
greedy, stingy, elitist employer we once shared.
Thanks for the compliment. They haven't changed at all. No, the two
photos are exactly as they were taken by me with no preparation or staging
at all (you can tell by the sheer composition that we weren't setting
anything up. At that point, the lamp glare on the viewfinder was such that
I couldn't see through it to compose the shot, so I just took some shots at
random to get an idea of the range and centering.
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Post by gatt
Tell me what you think of these... (e-mail to follow)
I think I am NEVER going to Cathedral Park at night, certainly not alone.
I wouldn't recommend that anyhow, but the photos certainly creep people out.
I was thinking about laminating copies and sticking 'em up in the park
restroom by the boat dock.
Post by osote
Please tell me that park is in the county and not in the city where 911
would send the Po Po?

Actually there's a PPD office right at the top of the hill. I suppose you
can get drugs there, or just shot in the face if you want. Whichever.

-c
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2003-11-14 01:15:55 UTC
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I think I am NEVER going to Cathedral Park at night, certainly not alone.
I wouldn't recommend that anyhow, but the photos certainly creep people out.
I was thinking about laminating copies and sticking 'em up in the park
restroom by the boat dock.
Now that is funny. I'd love to see how fast people scurry out of there after
seeing them.
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I think I am NEVER going to Cathedral Park at night, certainly not
alone.
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I wouldn't recommend that anyhow, but the photos certainly creep people
out.
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I was thinking about laminating copies and sticking 'em up in the park
restroom by the boat dock.
Now that is funny. I'd love to see how fast people scurry out of there after
seeing them.
Only the superstitious.
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2003-11-14 04:58:22 UTC
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I think I am NEVER going to Cathedral Park at night, certainly not
alone.
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I wouldn't recommend that anyhow, but the photos certainly creep people
out.
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I was thinking about laminating copies and sticking 'em up in the park
restroom by the boat dock.
Now that is funny. I'd love to see how fast people scurry out of there
after
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seeing them.
Only the superstitious.
I'd think they'd run like you would in a prison restroom.
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Now that is funny. I'd love to see how fast people scurry out of there
after
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seeing them.
Only the superstitious.
I'd think they'd run like you would in a prison restroom.
You need Anger Management classes.
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2003-11-13 02:00:01 UTC
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Oh, shit, I knew something was familiar about the place you took the ghost
pictures. You know about the young woman who was raped and murdered there
in the 1940's don't you?
Stand by. I'll mail you the pictures. I can say with complete honesty that
other than resizing them down from 21" width, they're completely unedited.
I've tried to recreate them based on the best guess for temperature and
humidity. Don't know what the barometric pressure was that night.
But we've tried recreating the shot, blowing smoke, tried exhaling when we
could see our breath (which we couldn't when the shot was taken although
there was dew in the grass. The grass wetness may also be due to
sprinklers...haven't verified that.)
Anyway, I'm looking for somebody who can duplicate the artifacts in the
image regardless of what caused them because I could have a LOT of fun with
the Art Bell types if I could figure out how to do this again. BTW, I have
indeed heard the ghost stories about the park but never had any sort of
"experience" there.
Post by osote
I don't know any of
this for sure, this is just what I suspect based on everything I've ever
learned or intuited.
I'm neutral on the issues of ghosts/paranormal. I'm inclined to disbelieve
but perfectly credible members (multiple) in my family have described things
they have seen together in the past that require an open mind.
Post by osote
Here is a link to a paranormal group in Vancouver, Washington that are
active photojournalists of psychic phenomena in this area. Their
photographs of the "orbs" that haunt Cathedral Park under the Saint John's
bridge support my beliefs that everything in life is circular, a globe,
Yeah...I saw their site and sent them e-mail but they didn't respond. The
problem with "orbs" is I suspect they can be reproduced with a common water
spray bottle. I tend to photograph "orbs" in perfectly mundane places where
there always seems to be higher than average humidity.
Tell me what you think of these... (e-mail to follow)
-c
Pardon me for butting in, but I wouldn't mind seeing these photos as well.
If you would, please send them to me at the address below (removing the
obvious).
Thanks,
ninja900

scott-"eatmeSpammers"@s-jphotography.com
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2003-11-13 16:37:12 UTC
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Oh, shit, I knew something was familiar about the place you took the
ghost
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pictures. You know about the young woman who was raped and murdered
there
Post by gatt
Post by osote
in the 1940's don't you?
Stand by. I'll mail you the pictures. I can say with complete honesty
that
Post by gatt
other than resizing them down from 21" width, they're completely unedited.
I've tried to recreate them based on the best guess for temperature and
humidity. Don't know what the barometric pressure was that night.
But we've tried recreating the shot, blowing smoke, tried exhaling when we
could see our breath (which we couldn't when the shot was taken although
there was dew in the grass. The grass wetness may also be due to
sprinklers...haven't verified that.)
Anyway, I'm looking for somebody who can duplicate the artifacts in the
image regardless of what caused them because I could have a LOT of fun
with
Post by gatt
the Art Bell types if I could figure out how to do this again. BTW, I
have
Post by gatt
indeed heard the ghost stories about the park but never had any sort of
"experience" there.
Post by osote
I don't know any of
this for sure, this is just what I suspect based on everything I've ever
learned or intuited.
I'm neutral on the issues of ghosts/paranormal. I'm inclined to
disbelieve
Post by gatt
but perfectly credible members (multiple) in my family have described
things
Post by gatt
they have seen together in the past that require an open mind.
Post by osote
Here is a link to a paranormal group in Vancouver, Washington that are
active photojournalists of psychic phenomena in this area. Their
photographs of the "orbs" that haunt Cathedral Park under the Saint
John's
Post by gatt
Post by osote
bridge support my beliefs that everything in life is circular, a globe,
Yeah...I saw their site and sent them e-mail but they didn't respond.
The
Post by gatt
Post by gatt
problem with "orbs" is I suspect they can be reproduced with a common
water
Post by gatt
spray bottle. I tend to photograph "orbs" in perfectly mundane places
where
Post by gatt
there always seems to be higher than average humidity.
Tell me what you think of these... (e-mail to follow)
-c
Pardon me for butting in, but I wouldn't mind seeing these photos as well.
If you would, please send them to me at the address below (removing the
obvious).
Thanks,
ninja900
I wonder if Gatt would be willing to post them to a web page so all
interested could view his photographs. I certainly respect his privacy and
understand if he is not willing to share the pictures publicly due to the
hostility out there against the supernatural.
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I wonder if Gatt would be willing to post them to a web page so all
interested could view his photographs. I certainly respect his privacy and
understand if he is not willing to share the pictures publicly due to the
hostility out there against the supernatural.
Hostility?! More like skepticism to hoots of derision.
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I wonder if Gatt would be willing to post them to a web page so all
interested could view his photographs. I certainly respect his privacy
and
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understand if he is not willing to share the pictures publicly due to the
hostility out there against the supernatural.
Hostility?! More like skepticism to hoots of derision.
You haven't seen the pictures, I have - so why don't you be on your merry
little way before I make you cry.
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I wonder if Gatt would be willing to post them to a web page so all
interested could view his photographs. I certainly respect his privacy
and
Post by osote
understand if he is not willing to share the pictures publicly due to
the
Post by Baxter
Post by osote
hostility out there against the supernatural.
Hostility?! More like skepticism to hoots of derision.
You haven't seen the pictures, I have - so why don't you be on your merry
little way before I make you cry.
Strange how someone who professes not to believe in religion and god is so
ready to believe in the supernatural.

You've seen pictures, but not of ghosts.
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2003-11-13 23:56:21 UTC
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I wonder if Gatt would be willing to post them to a web page so all
interested could view his photographs. I certainly respect his
privacy
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and
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understand if he is not willing to share the pictures publicly due to
the
Post by Baxter
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hostility out there against the supernatural.
Hostility?! More like skepticism to hoots of derision.
You haven't seen the pictures, I have - so why don't you be on your merry
little way before I make you cry.
Strange how someone who professes not to believe in religion and god is so
ready to believe in the supernatural.
You know, Baxter, you just keep making more of a fool of yourself as you go
along. You just make shit up as you go without any regard for the truth.
Show me exactly where it is that I said I believed in ghosts or that I
believed the pictures to be of ghosts. You are such an ignorant jerk. The
mind boggles.
gatt
2003-11-14 01:04:09 UTC
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BTW, Dave gave the best technical analysis of the photos I've received so
far. Of course, he's actually SEEN them...

-c
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2003-11-14 01:13:43 UTC
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BTW, Dave gave the best technical analysis of the photos I've received so
far. Of course, he's actually SEEN them...
Evidence is like Kryptonite to Baxter. Or is it like a laxative? I can never
tell with his shit.
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BTW, Dave gave the best technical analysis of the photos I've received so
far. Of course, he's actually SEEN them...
Evidence is like Kryptonite to Baxter. Or is it like a laxative? I can never
tell with his shit.
Evidence of what? Certainly NOT evidence of ghosts nor of the supernatural.
Evidence of some curious natural phenomena? Most likely. Evidence of a
scam? Also possible.
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2003-11-14 04:30:21 UTC
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Evidence is like Kryptonite to Baxter. Or is it like a laxative? I can
never tell with his shit.
Evidence of what? Certainly NOT evidence of ghosts nor of the
supernatural.
Evidence of some curious natural phenomena? Most likely. Evidence of a
scam? Also possible.
Damned if you know, huh? 'Cause you haven't even seen it. In other words,
you have no idea what you're talking about.

Evidence of cluelessness? Indeed.

-c
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Evidence is like Kryptonite to Baxter. Or is it like a laxative? I can
never tell with his shit.
Evidence of what? Certainly NOT evidence of ghosts nor of the
supernatural.
Evidence of some curious natural phenomena? Most likely. Evidence of a
scam? Also possible.
Damned if you know, huh? 'Cause you haven't even seen it. In other words,
you have no idea what you're talking about.
Evidence of cluelessness? Indeed.
Evidence of bluster? Absolutely! gatt is the Center of the Universe - like
every other neo-con.
gatt
2003-11-14 19:12:19 UTC
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Evidence of bluster? Absolutely! gatt is the Center of the Universe - like
every other neo-con.
Shut up, Republican.

You haven't seen the photos.

The FACT remains: you have no idea what you're talking about in this thread.

-c
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Evidence of bluster? Absolutely! gatt is the Center of the Universe -
like
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every other neo-con.
Shut up, Republican.
Unfortunitely.
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You haven't seen the photos.
The FACT remains: you have no idea what you're talking about in this thread.
On the contrary, I do know what I'm talking about. You, on the other hand,
have had you mouth open so much you haven't heard a thing.
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BTW, Dave gave the best technical analysis of the photos I've received
so
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far. Of course, he's actually SEEN them...
Evidence is like Kryptonite to Baxter. Or is it like a laxative? I can
never
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tell with his shit.
Evidence of what? Certainly NOT evidence of ghosts nor of the
supernatural.
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Evidence of some curious natural phenomena? Most likely. Evidence of a
scam? Also possible.
Evidence of your stupidity? Even more likely. You have no clue. Please get
lost.
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BTW, Dave gave the best technical analysis of the photos I've received
so
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far. Of course, he's actually SEEN them...
Evidence is like Kryptonite to Baxter. Or is it like a laxative? I can
never
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tell with his shit.
Evidence of what? Certainly NOT evidence of ghosts nor of the
supernatural.
Post by Baxter
Evidence of some curious natural phenomena? Most likely. Evidence of a
scam? Also possible.
Evidence of your stupidity? Even more likely. You have no clue. Please get
lost.
More bluster. Frankly Dave, it's you that's looking stupid trying to defend
the indefensible.
gatt
2003-11-14 19:13:19 UTC
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Evidence of your stupidity? Even more likely. You have no clue. Please get
lost.
More bluster. Frankly Dave, it's you that's looking stupid trying to defend
the indefensible.
Why don't you tell us about the photographs, Baxter. Dave's seen them.
You haven't. So go ahead. I'm challenging you right now to describe the
photos to Dave.

-c
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2003-11-14 19:19:34 UTC
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Evidence of your stupidity? Even more likely. You have no clue. Please
get
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lost.
More bluster. Frankly Dave, it's you that's looking stupid trying to
defend
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the indefensible.
Why don't you tell us about the photographs, Baxter. Dave's seen them.
You haven't. So go ahead. I'm challenging you right now to describe the
photos to Dave.
Baxter's just mad because we didn't believe his story about finding the
likeness of the Virgin Mary in his underpants.
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Evidence of your stupidity? Even more likely. You have no clue. Please
get
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lost.
More bluster. Frankly Dave, it's you that's looking stupid trying to
defend
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the indefensible.
Why don't you tell us about the photographs, Baxter. Dave's seen them.
You haven't. So go ahead. I'm challenging you right now to describe the
photos to Dave.
Baxter's just mad because we didn't believe his story about finding the
likeness of the Virgin Mary in his underpants.
Stupid, just plain stupid.
osote
2003-11-16 04:56:47 UTC
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Evidence of your stupidity? Even more likely. You have no clue. Please
get
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lost.
More bluster. Frankly Dave, it's you that's looking stupid trying to
defend
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the indefensible.
Why don't you tell us about the photographs, Baxter. Dave's seen them.
You haven't. So go ahead. I'm challenging you right now to describe the
photos to Dave.
Baxter's just mad because we didn't believe his story about finding the
likeness of the Virgin Mary in his underpants.
That reminds me of a silt formation in my bathtub back in my college days.
My friends said the bath scum formed an image of Jesus in the bathtub but I
said, "that's not Jesus, that's Jay Leno!" I should have sent that picture
in to The Tonight Show.
gatt
2003-11-17 20:54:52 UTC
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My friends said the bath scum formed an image of Jesus in the bathtub but I
said, "that's not Jesus, that's Jay Leno!"
Now that IS terrifying!

-c

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Evidence of your stupidity? Even more likely. You have no clue. Please
get
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lost.
More bluster. Frankly Dave, it's you that's looking stupid trying to
defend
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the indefensible.
Why don't you tell us about the photographs, Baxter. Dave's seen them.
You haven't. So go ahead. I'm challenging you right now to describe the
photos to Dave.
One doesn't need to see the photos in order to know some of the things they
aren't.
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I wonder if Gatt would be willing to post them to a web page so all
interested could view his photographs. I certainly respect his
privacy
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and
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understand if he is not willing to share the pictures publicly due
to
Post by osote
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the
Post by Baxter
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hostility out there against the supernatural.
Hostility?! More like skepticism to hoots of derision.
You haven't seen the pictures, I have - so why don't you be on your
merry
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little way before I make you cry.
Strange how someone who professes not to believe in religion and god is so
ready to believe in the supernatural.
You know, Baxter, you just keep making more of a fool of yourself as you go
along. You just make shit up as you go without any regard for the truth.
Show me exactly where it is that I said I believed in ghosts or that I
believed the pictures to be of ghosts. You are such an ignorant jerk. The
mind boggles.
Backtracking now? You've "seen the pictures" and you're going to 'make me
cry' because I greet such pictures with something between skepticism and
hoots of derision? I think not. You can't even get your argument straight.
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I wonder if Gatt would be willing to post them to a web page so
all
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interested could view his photographs. I certainly respect his
privacy
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and
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understand if he is not willing to share the pictures publicly due
to
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the
Post by Baxter
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hostility out there against the supernatural.
Hostility?! More like skepticism to hoots of derision.
You haven't seen the pictures, I have - so why don't you be on your
merry
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little way before I make you cry.
Strange how someone who professes not to believe in religion and god
is
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so
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ready to believe in the supernatural.
You know, Baxter, you just keep making more of a fool of yourself as you
go
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along. You just make shit up as you go without any regard for the truth.
Show me exactly where it is that I said I believed in ghosts or that I
believed the pictures to be of ghosts. You are such an ignorant jerk. The
mind boggles.
Backtracking now? You've "seen the pictures" and you're going to 'make me
cry' because I greet such pictures with something between skepticism and
hoots of derision? I think not. You can't even get your argument straight.
Sure I can. I never said what I thought. You, however, just made shit up.

Must suck to be you. Must suck even worse to be your child. The child of an
idiot. Nothing you can do to live that down.
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Backtracking now? You've "seen the pictures" and you're going to 'make me
cry' because I greet such pictures with something between skepticism and
hoots of derision? I think not. You can't even get your argument
straight.
Sure I can. I never said what I thought. You, however, just made shit up.
Must suck to be you. Must suck even worse to be your child. The child of an
idiot. Nothing you can do to live that down.
Translation: Dave has been nailed and is now trying to bluster his way out.
gatt
2003-11-14 19:14:59 UTC
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Translation: Dave has been nailed and is now trying to bluster his way out.
Describe the photographs, Baxter.

Running total: You lied about graduating from college, you lied about
finding super-cheap gas in north Portland, and you haven't even SEEN the
photos you're accusing Dave--who has seen them--of "blustering."

Comical.

-c
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Translation: Dave has been nailed and is now trying to bluster his way
out.
Describe the photographs, Baxter.
Running total: You lied about graduating from college, you lied about
finding super-cheap gas in north Portland, and you haven't even SEEN the
photos you're accusing Dave--who has seen them--of "blustering."
Now you're just blustering.
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Comical.
You're just sad.
Lobby Dosser
2003-11-15 02:16:55 UTC
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Translation: Dave has been nailed and is now trying to bluster his
way
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out.
Describe the photographs, Baxter.
Running total: You lied about graduating from college, you lied about
finding super-cheap gas in north Portland, and you haven't even SEEN the
photos you're accusing Dave--who has seen them--of "blustering."
Comical.
Geez, if you're gonna gang up on the guy, at least get it right and throw
in everything including the bus saga and the humans chopping down the
Sahara forest.
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-c
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2003-11-15 03:25:09 UTC
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Translation: Dave has been nailed and is now trying to bluster his
way
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out.
Describe the photographs, Baxter.
Running total: You lied about graduating from college, you lied about
finding super-cheap gas in north Portland, and you haven't even SEEN
the
Post by gatt
photos you're accusing Dave--who has seen them--of "blustering."
Comical.
Geez, if you're gonna gang up on the guy, at least get it right and throw
in everything including the bus saga and the humans chopping down the
Sahara forest.
Don't get him started on the Sahara Forest. It's real for him.
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Translation: Dave has been nailed and is now trying to bluster his
way
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out.
Describe the photographs, Baxter.
Running total: You lied about graduating from college, you lied about
finding super-cheap gas in north Portland, and you haven't even SEEN
the
Post by gatt
photos you're accusing Dave--who has seen them--of "blustering."
Comical.
Geez, if you're gonna gang up on the guy, at least get it right and throw
in everything including the bus saga and the humans chopping down the
Sahara forest.
Ah, that's right - the Sahara Forest never existed. Thanks for clearing
that up.
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Translation: Dave has been nailed and is now trying to bluster his
way
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out.
Describe the photographs, Baxter.
Running total: You lied about graduating from college, you lied
about finding super-cheap gas in north Portland, and you haven't
even SEEN
the
Post by gatt
photos you're accusing Dave--who has seen them--of "blustering."
Comical.
Geez, if you're gonna gang up on the guy, at least get it right and
throw in everything including the bus saga and the humans chopping
down the Sahara forest.
Ah, that's right - the Sahara Forest never existed. Thanks for
clearing that up.
Well, acually it did.
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cry' because I greet such pictures with something between skepticism and
hoots of derision? I think not. You can't even get your argument
straight.
Sure I can. I never said what I thought. You, however, just made shit up.
Must suck to be you. Must suck even worse to be your child. The child of
an
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idiot. Nothing you can do to live that down.
Translation: Dave has been nailed and is now trying to bluster his way out.
Your like a little fishy flopping on the deck, gasping for air.
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Backtracking now? You've "seen the pictures" and you're going to
'make
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me
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cry' because I greet such pictures with something between skepticism
and
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hoots of derision? I think not. You can't even get your argument
straight.
Sure I can. I never said what I thought. You, however, just made shit
up.
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Must suck to be you. Must suck even worse to be your child. The child of
an
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idiot. Nothing you can do to live that down.
Translation: Dave has been nailed and is now trying to bluster his way
out.
Your like a little fishy flopping on the deck, gasping for air.
You wish.
gatt
2003-11-14 01:00:59 UTC
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Strange how someone who professes not to believe in religion and god is so
ready to believe in the supernatural.
Funny. All he said is that he's seen the pictures. The idea that he's
ready to believe in the supernatural is a figment of your (rather active)
imagination. You're trying to put words in Dave's mouth too now, eh?
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You've seen pictures, but not of ghosts.
And you haven't seen the pictures at all, you numbskull, so there is no
basis whatsoever for you to comment.

-c
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Strange how someone who professes not to believe in religion and god is so
ready to believe in the supernatural.
Funny. All he said is that he's seen the pictures. The idea that he's
ready to believe in the supernatural is a figment of your (rather active)
imagination. You're trying to put words in Dave's mouth too now, eh?
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You've seen pictures, but not of ghosts.
And you haven't seen the pictures at all, you numbskull, so there is no
basis whatsoever for you to comment.
Sure there is. I can also categorically say your pictures are not of Little
Green Men From Mars too.
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2003-11-14 04:32:35 UTC
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And you haven't seen the pictures at all, you numbskull, so there is no
basis whatsoever for you to comment.
Sure there is. I can also categorically say your pictures are not of Little
Green Men From Mars too.
But the fact is, you don't know what's actually in the picture at all, do
you? So you might as well go ahead and categorically say anything you want.
It's meaningless, however, because you have no actual idea what you're
talking about. And you're saying this to people who HAVE seen the pictures.

-c
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And you haven't seen the pictures at all, you numbskull, so there is no
basis whatsoever for you to comment.
Sure there is. I can also categorically say your pictures are not of
Little
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Green Men From Mars too.
But the fact is, you don't know what's actually in the picture at all, do
you? So you might as well go ahead and categorically say anything you want.
It's meaningless, however, because you have no actual idea what you're
talking about. And you're saying this to people who HAVE seen the pictures.
Doesn't matter what's in the pictures - I do know any number of things that
are NOT in them.
gatt
2003-11-14 00:58:31 UTC
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I certainly respect his privacy and
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understand if he is not willing to share the pictures publicly due to the
hostility out there against the supernatural.
Hostility?! More like skepticism to hoots of derision.
...he says, having not seen the photos at all.

Basically, Baxter is spouting his mouth off without having any idea what the
hell he's talking about, proving once again that he's a completely ignorant
ass who's less interested in determining the facts than he is sniping at
people on the internet. 'Course he can't actually offer any actual
knowledge or information about the photos 'cause he HASN'T EVEN SEEN THEM.

BAXTER! SHUT THE HELL UP YOU CLUELESS, IGNORANT DUMBASS. AT -LEAST-UNTIL
YOU'VE SEEN THE PHOTOS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT! YOU HAVE NO IDEA!

I'm laughing at you now, you silly little dipshit. Stop flapping your
asshole at people in conversations to which you have absolutely NO
information. Kinda casts a shadow over everything else that craps itself
out of your head, but we already know you're a useless, lying dirtbag with
no actual credibility or integrity. Your useless contribution to this
thread is proof. Thank you for revealing the petty, juvenile deficiency of
your character.

-gatt
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I certainly respect his privacy and
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understand if he is not willing to share the pictures publicly due to
the
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hostility out there against the supernatural.
Hostility?! More like skepticism to hoots of derision.
...he says, having not seen the photos at all.
Basically, Baxter is spouting his mouth off without having any idea what the
hell he's talking about, proving once again that he's a completely ignorant
ass who's less interested in determining the facts than he is sniping at
people on the internet. 'Course he can't actually offer any actual
knowledge or information about the photos 'cause he HASN'T EVEN SEEN THEM.
BAXTER! SHUT THE HELL UP YOU CLUELESS, IGNORANT DUMBASS. AT -LEAST-UNTIL
YOU'VE SEEN THE PHOTOS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT! YOU HAVE NO IDEA!
I'm laughing at you now, you silly little dipshit. Stop flapping your
asshole at people in conversations to which you have absolutely NO
information. Kinda casts a shadow over everything else that craps itself
out of your head, but we already know you're a useless, lying dirtbag with
no actual credibility or integrity. Your useless contribution to this
thread is proof. Thank you for revealing the petty, juvenile deficiency of
your character.
Tell you what, -gatt, you can get a bundle of money from James Randi if you
can demonstrate that any of those photos show anything remotely
supernatural. Until then, skepticism or hoots of derision are appropriate.
If there's anyone being juvenile here it's you - unless, of course, you're
trying to scam somebody with this stuff. You may have something you're
unable to explain, but the supernatural CAN be ruled out from the outset.
gatt
2003-11-14 04:44:01 UTC
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Tell you what, -gatt, you can get a bundle of money from James Randi if you
can demonstrate that any of those photos show anything remotely
supernatural.
You know, the funny thing here is that I never suggested they were
supernatural at all. I've very much enjoyed the little ink-blot experiment
of people's reactions. Some are horrified, some can see the
eyes/sideburns/nose on his/her face. Others look at it and go "Oh, that's a
skull/peace symbol/mercedes logo/pig snout, whatever. This is obviously
fake."

The file names are fog1 and fog2. Not ghost1 ghost2. Usually, I don't even
bother to tell people anything else other than I took the photos at
Cathedral Park before they've made up their minds that it's a ghost or a
fake. What I enjoy, however, is that they don't even wait for me to suggest
that the photo is paranormal, or not paranormal, and I haven't even
suggested that it might be paranormal, before they go one way or the other.
That amuses me.

What amuses almost as much is the anomaly, which is you: You haven't even
SEEN the photos, and yet you expect us to take you seriously. And that's
pretty funny.
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Until then, skepticism or hoots of derision are appropriate.
Loudmouthed cluelessness is more accurate.
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If there's anyone being juvenile here it's you - unless, of course, you're
trying to scam somebody with this stuff.
You're like that straight and narrow guy trying to tell high school kids
from Gresham what being stoned feels like. They may be juvenile, but they're
still shaking their heads and laughing at him.
-c
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Tell you what, -gatt, you can get a bundle of money from James Randi if
you
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can demonstrate that any of those photos show anything remotely
supernatural.
You know, the funny thing here is that I never suggested they were
supernatural at all.
Did I say you did? I responded to someone's assertion about "hostility out
there against the supernatural", and you started knee-jerking all over the
place.


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Until then, skepticism or hoots of derision are appropriate.
Loudmouthed cluelessness is more accurate.
Actually, gatt, it's you that's being the loudmouth trying to intimidate
anyone who doesn't fawn over you from making any comment at all.
gatt
2003-11-14 19:10:24 UTC
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Actually, gatt, it's you that's being the loudmouth trying to intimidate
anyone who doesn't fawn over you from making any comment at all.
Wrong again, LeRoy.

I've offered the photos to anybody who wants them and not in any way
discouraged people who HAVE ACTUALLY SEEN THE PHOTOS from commenting on
them, trying to recreate them or offering explanations for them.

-c
Michelle
2003-11-14 23:04:57 UTC
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I've offered the photos to anybody who wants them and not in any way
discouraged people who HAVE ACTUALLY SEEN THE PHOTOS from commenting on
them, trying to recreate them or offering explanations for them.
-c
<snip>

I would be very interested in seeing these photos, I lived a few
blocks from the park and spent a lot of time there. If you have a
moment please e-mail them to me at the above addy.
Thanks, Michelle
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Actually, gatt, it's you that's being the loudmouth trying to intimidate
anyone who doesn't fawn over you from making any comment at all.
Wrong again, LeRoy.
Nope.
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I've offered the photos to anybody who wants them and not in any way
discouraged people who HAVE ACTUALLY SEEN THE PHOTOS from commenting on
them, trying to recreate them or offering explanations for them.
Yet you would try to suppress commentary from anyone who doesn't meet your
arbitrary requirements. Fact is, gatt, my original comment that got you
knee-jerking so spastically was really not about the photos but about
someone's comment about the photos.
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2003-11-15 04:27:44 UTC
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Actually, gatt, it's you that's being the loudmouth trying to intimidate
anyone who doesn't fawn over you from making any comment at all.
Wrong again, LeRoy.
Nope.
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I've offered the photos to anybody who wants them and not in any way
discouraged people who HAVE ACTUALLY SEEN THE PHOTOS from commenting on
them, trying to recreate them or offering explanations for them.
Yet you would try to suppress commentary from anyone who doesn't meet your
arbitrary requirements. Fact is, gatt, my original comment that got you
knee-jerking so spastically was really not about the photos but about
someone's comment about the photos.
It figures that you think actually viewing evidence that you are commenting
on is an arbitrary requirement.

Maybe I should comment on you homelife? Seeing as I have no idea what it
might be like I'm certainly as qualified to comment on it as you are the
pictures in question.


What do you say, Gatt, what do you think Baxter is like in real life?
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Actually, gatt, it's you that's being the loudmouth trying to
intimidate
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anyone who doesn't fawn over you from making any comment at all.
Wrong again, LeRoy.
Nope.
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I've offered the photos to anybody who wants them and not in any way
discouraged people who HAVE ACTUALLY SEEN THE PHOTOS from commenting on
them, trying to recreate them or offering explanations for them.
Yet you would try to suppress commentary from anyone who doesn't meet your
arbitrary requirements. Fact is, gatt, my original comment that got you
knee-jerking so spastically was really not about the photos but about
someone's comment about the photos.
It figures that you think actually viewing evidence that you are commenting
on is an arbitrary requirement.
Did we have to actually see bacteria and viruses before we could effectively
treat them? If we can't see planets in other Solar Systems, does that mean
they don't exist?

Sounds to me like the moss is between your ears and not on your back.
ninja900
2003-11-15 06:03:42 UTC
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Did we have to actually see bacteria and viruses before we could effectively
treat them?
Um, actually, and technically, yes. Of course, even though those wacky
science bastards keep trying to convince us, we know the Earth is flat, eh
Baxter?
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If we can't see planets in other Solar Systems, does that mean
they don't exist?
Wait, so now you believe in things you haven't seen? So you believe in
gatt's photos? Dude, you are incredibly complex.
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Sounds to me like the moss is between your ears and not on your back.
And we all know that moss isn't growing between your ears. That's 'cause it
typically grows on the *outside* of a rock, right?
You may now assail me with your usual intellectual, witty retorts. Try this
one: "You wish." Damn, man, that's gotta be one of my favorites.

C'mon, give me one of yer bestest brain farts Baxter ol' buddy...

ninja900
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"ninja900" <***@thistime.com> wrote in message news:***@corp.supernews.com...

Hmmm.... You one of those amUsenet trolls that change their handle
everytime they lose and argument?
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Did we have to actually see bacteria and viruses before we could
effectively
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treat them?
Um, actually, and technically, yes.
Actually, not. Germ Theory was developed before the lens powerful enough to
see them. Certainly the case with virii.
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2003-11-15 19:00:28 UTC
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Hmmm.... You one of those amUsenet trolls that change their handle
everytime they lose and argument?
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Did we have to actually see bacteria and viruses before we could
effectively
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treat them?
Um, actually, and technically, yes.
Actually, not. Germ Theory was developed before the lens powerful enough to
see them. Certainly the case with virii.
They were detected even though they were not technically seen. They didn't
just pull the idea out of their ass like you pull your ideas.
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2003-11-15 21:54:33 UTC
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Hmmm.... You one of those amUsenet trolls that change their handle
everytime they lose and argument?
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Did we have to actually see bacteria and viruses before we could
effectively
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treat them?
Um, actually, and technically, yes.
Actually, not. Germ Theory was developed before the lens powerful
enough
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to
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see them. Certainly the case with virii.
They were detected even though they were not technically seen. They didn't
just pull the idea out of their ass like you pull your ideas.
To paraphrase: "If we can't see something, Dave Thompson says that means it
does not exist."
Dave Thompson
2003-11-16 02:59:15 UTC
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Hmmm.... You one of those amUsenet trolls that change their handle
everytime they lose and argument?
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Did we have to actually see bacteria and viruses before we could
effectively
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treat them?
Um, actually, and technically, yes.
Actually, not. Germ Theory was developed before the lens powerful
enough
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to
Post by Baxter
see them. Certainly the case with virii.
They were detected even though they were not technically seen. They didn't
just pull the idea out of their ass like you pull your ideas.
To paraphrase: "If we can't see something, Dave Thompson says that means it
does not exist."
You've got it. If it is undetected and undetectable, it's irrelevant.

Hate to burst your bubble about the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus but that's
the truth.
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2003-11-16 16:43:20 UTC
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They were detected even though they were not technically seen. They
didn't
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just pull the idea out of their ass like you pull your ideas.
To paraphrase: "If we can't see something, Dave Thompson says that
means
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it
Post by Baxter
does not exist."
You've got it. If it is undetected and undetectable, it's irrelevant.
Hate to burst your bubble about the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus but that's
the truth.
Just to stir the pot up a little more, I believe that many of the known
sub-atomic particles were predicted to exist long before they were ever
detected. Stuff like quarks and neutrinos.
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They were detected even though they were not technically seen. They
didn't
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just pull the idea out of their ass like you pull your ideas.
To paraphrase: "If we can't see something, Dave Thompson says that
means
Post by gatt
it
Post by Baxter
does not exist."
You've got it. If it is undetected and undetectable, it's irrelevant.
Hate to burst your bubble about the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus but
that's
Post by gatt
the truth.
Just to stir the pot up a little more, I believe that many of the known
sub-atomic particles were predicted to exist long before they were ever
detected. Stuff like quarks and neutrinos.
Well, do note that Dave is trying to have it both ways - that it does exist
if even we can't see it, and that it doesn't exist if we can't see it.
Mostly he's just knee-jerking - EKBB (engaging keyboard before brain).
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2003-11-16 04:27:41 UTC
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Hmmm.... You one of those amUsenet trolls that change their handle
everytime they lose and argument?
Nope. Just thought I'd join in on the fun of watching you make an idiot out
of yourself. Thanks for letting me play!
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Did we have to actually see bacteria and viruses before we could
effectively
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treat them?
Um, actually, and technically, yes.
Actually, not. Germ Theory was developed before the lens powerful enough to
see them. Certainly the case with virii.
Nope, wrong again, Bax ol' buddy. You said "effectively." Before the
bacteria were identified properly, r.e. visually noted as to their makeup,
they were treated with theoretical cures. And they weren't especially
effective in treatment. Once the bacteria has been identified as to it's
molecular makeup, then it can be targeted for treatment.

As we all know, viral detection and treatment is much more difficult.

Don't fall back to weak arguments regarding "theories" to bail yourself out
with. Otherwise you destroy your own arguments for the theories against the
validity of anyone elses statement(s).

Once again, thanks for letting me play.

ninja900
Dave Goldman
2003-11-16 07:48:02 UTC
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Before the bacteria were identified properly, r.e. visually noted as to
their makeup, they were treated with theoretical cures. And they
weren't especially effective in treatment. Once the bacteria has been
identified as to it's molecular makeup, then it can be targeted for
treatment.
This is historical nonsense!

Penicillin was saving lives DECADES before any molecular knowledge of
bacterial cell walls was remotely possible. Ditto sulfa drugs,
macrocylcins, etc.

I'm unaware of a single class of antibiotics that was designed in response
to an understanding of bacterial molecular structure.

- Dave Goldman
Portland, OR
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2003-11-15 06:21:42 UTC
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Actually, gatt, it's you that's being the loudmouth trying to
intimidate
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anyone who doesn't fawn over you from making any comment at all.
Wrong again, LeRoy.
Nope.
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I've offered the photos to anybody who wants them and not in any way
discouraged people who HAVE ACTUALLY SEEN THE PHOTOS from commenting
on
Post by Baxter
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them, trying to recreate them or offering explanations for them.
Yet you would try to suppress commentary from anyone who doesn't meet
your
Post by Baxter
Post by Baxter
arbitrary requirements. Fact is, gatt, my original comment that got you
knee-jerking so spastically was really not about the photos but about
someone's comment about the photos.
It figures that you think actually viewing evidence that you are
commenting
Post by Baxter
on is an arbitrary requirement.
Did we have to actually see bacteria and viruses before we could effectively
treat them?
Yes.

If we can't see planets in other Solar Systems, does that mean
Post by Baxter
they don't exist?
Yes.
Post by Baxter
Sounds to me like the moss is between your ears and not on your back.
Sounds to me like you're not much on science.

Typical ignorant high school gradiate.
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2003-11-15 17:17:43 UTC
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If we can't see planets in other Solar Systems, does that mean
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they don't exist?
Yes.
Oh, that's a keeper! ROTFLMAO!!!

What's next? You can't see oxygen - so it must not exist either?
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2003-11-15 18:59:05 UTC
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If we can't see planets in other Solar Systems, does that mean
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they don't exist?
Yes.
Oh, that's a keeper! ROTFLMAO!!!
What's next? You can't see oxygen - so it must not exist either?
See as in detect. Are you that much of an ass that it needs to be explained
to you?
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2003-11-17 20:51:14 UTC
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What do you say, Gatt, what do you think Baxter is like in real life?
Mama said if I don't have anything nice to say...

;>

-c
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2003-11-14 00:06:37 UTC
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I wonder if Gatt would be willing to post them to a web page so all
interested could view his photographs.
Working. My available webspace is pegged from the robot stuff but I'm
working with my employer to switch domains and get more. In the meantime,
I'll give the photos around to anybody who wants 'em 'cause I want somebody
to explain what I'm seeing. Feel free to forward as you wish.

-c
osote
2003-11-16 05:01:07 UTC
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I wonder if Gatt would be willing to post them to a web page so all
interested could view his photographs.
Working. My available webspace is pegged from the robot stuff but I'm
working with my employer to switch domains and get more. In the meantime,
I'll give the photos around to anybody who wants 'em 'cause I want somebody
to explain what I'm seeing. Feel free to forward as you wish.
-c
Thank you, I will. Also, what robot web page? I am glad you are still
doing that stuff. I forgot the name of the show your robots were on, that
one where they battled. Also, what about free webspace?
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2003-11-17 20:50:23 UTC
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Thank you, I will. Also, what robot web page?
http://www.juggerbot.com is the only one working right now. Our Rosie the
Riveter site is waiting to be deployed.
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I am glad you are still doing that stuff.
We just built an arena and sold it to a high school science department in
Canada. The "big" robots are fun but they're expensive and a total pain in
the ass to work with and especially store. Instead of 220-pounders that are
3 feet wide, we're building a fleet of 12-pounders that kids pay to drive in
the arena at science fairs and stuff like that. The money is actually
better than in the televised stuff except for Robot Wars.
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I forgot the name of the show your robots were on, that one where they
battled.

We did two seasons of Robotica (*grumble*), one season of Battlebots w/ a
320-pounder and two seasons of Robot Wars over in England and a bunch of
nontelevised stuff. Rosie the Riveter II is the only machine left in
working order of the half dozen or so that we built.
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Also, what about free webspace?
Any suggestions? My coworkers tease me 'cause I'm still most familiar with
command-line ftp.

-c
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2003-10-31 20:49:19 UTC
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During which I cut
myself shaving my legs (YOU find a bandaid THAT long, he he) and the
floating candles caught my shower curtain on fire!
Whoa! The moral of the story is, never take a bath without a fire
extinguisher!

At least you didn't put Christmas lights in the tub!

Happy Halloween!

=c
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2003-11-05 14:00:23 UTC
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During which I cut
myself shaving my legs (YOU find a bandaid THAT long, he he) and the
floating candles caught my shower curtain on fire!
Whoa! The moral of the story is, never take a bath without a fire
extinguisher!
At least you didn't put Christmas lights in the tub!
Happy Halloween!
I had the best Halloween. I spent the day with my teenaged son, who is very
troubled right now and hasn't been living at home with me for awhile and he
and I went to his new doctor and addressed some of his health matters and
then we ate lunch together and then we went to see "Kill Bill" which was
outrageous and awesome, as all of Quentin Tarantino's work has been. We
laughed at the blood bath and enjoyed the anime and I know I could relate to
the themes of revenge and redemption and female power used for good and
female power gone awry. It was a very cathartic movie for me. In real
life, I choose not to get revenge against the people in my life who have
done horrible things to me because it is not good for my soul. I feel
better about myself when I love those who have hurt me and try to understand
what motivated them to do so and wish them a speedier recovery than mine has
been, although my recovery is beautiful and powerful and a testament of
love. However, like the Quentin Tarantino films point out, do not fuck with
those with PTSD, for I will hurt you more than you will hurt me.

Then I dropped him off at the teenage shelter he's been living at and zipped
over to The Ohm for the Floater concert. It was wonderful, of course. And
it was so weird for me to be in a bar with mostly straight people after
hanging out at Panorama for a year. I like Panorama because of the
excellent security and I feel safe there because as long as I obey the
rules, which are few and very basic, I am safe and anything goes there and
the clothes are ususally the first thing that goes, heh heh heh. So after I
thanked Rob for the Floater concert and told him who I was and promised him
mp3's of my voice (they'll be up on my webpage shortly) I went to Panorama
and was not disappointed. Lots of beautiful men AND women and everything in
between, all dressed up and partying hard. It was great. And then the guy
I broke up with, again, showed up at the last minute and my night was
complete. I was happy to be with him again as I am not quite done and will
quit that man when I am ready and he is not done with me yet, either, so I
had the best Halloween of my life.

All Saint's Day I spent taking inventory of my relationships and of my life
and mourning the dead and celebrating the living and figuring out the
difference.

osote
gatt
2003-11-05 21:30:20 UTC
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We laughed at the blood bath and enjoyed the anime and I know I could
relate to
the themes of revenge and redemption and female power used for good and
female power gone awry.
Yeahman, everybody needs to laugh at a blood bath from time to time! :>

I saw Alien on Saturday. One of my favorite movies of all time but I was
amazed at how SLOW it was and how much time passed before the scary stuff
started happening.

Glad you had a happy, bloody Halloween! I went to a party that shut down
when the party drew so much power the transformer failed out on the pole.
DOH! That cut it a little short, but it was still fun.
-c
osote
2003-11-08 12:58:59 UTC
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Post by osote
We laughed at the blood bath and enjoyed the anime and I know I could
relate to
the themes of revenge and redemption and female power used for good and
female power gone awry.
Yeahman, everybody needs to laugh at a blood bath from time to time! :>
I saw Alien on Saturday. One of my favorite movies of all time but I was
amazed at how SLOW it was and how much time passed before the scary stuff
started happening.
Glad you had a happy, bloody Halloween! I went to a party that shut down
when the party drew so much power the transformer failed out on the pole.
DOH! That cut it a little short, but it was still fun.
-c
ha ha ha! now THAT'S a party!
gatt
2003-10-31 20:46:30 UTC
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Funny! Happy Halloween, David.

Don't forget that tomorrow is All Saints Day. In New Orleans (and
elsewhere), families gather to attend to the graves of their loved ones. I
think I know what I'm going to do tomorrow.

-gatt
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A happy and spooktacular Halloween to all. Weather guy says there is not
a ghost of a chance for rain. So, guys keep your pumpkins warm and may
you and your ghoul friend have a better Halloween than my wife and I did
last year.
We'd gone to bed after giving out goodies and were just about to fall
asleep when we heard a horrible moaning shriek. Apparently a ghost had
got sucked up in the heating system and what a noise when the sheet hit
the fan! :-)
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